“What do you see outside?” Soon as Pennie got into trance. 

‘I see stars, many, many stars. It is so beautiful.

“All right, it is dark, right?”

‘Yes, I am in the night sky.’

“Ok, can you see down below?”

‘Yes, there are fires .. many fires.’

“Forest fire?”

‘No, many little fires. Oh! They are fighting …’

“Are you in the fight?”

‘No! I was hiding behind a rock, and watch..’

“Are you boy or girl?”

‘I am a boy, teen age.’

“What do you wear?”

‘Brown shoes, broken pants … I am so poor.’

“The fight is over?”

‘No!  it is a battle. Two tribes are fighting, they use swords, knives, and torches.’

“What century do you think you are now?”

‘About 10.’

“Which continent?”

‘In North Europe’

“Ok, it is daybreak, what happens to the battle?”

‘They all left. Many bodies on the ground.’

“Are you going home now?”

‘I have no home!’

“You must be very hungry. Where will you go?”

‘To the town.’

“Ok, you walk to the town, what do you see?”

‘People are gathering at the market place. They are tired. A few women are cooking something, ‘

“Ok, you got foods to eat.  Now what happens?”

‘They want more men to join. …. They enrolled me’

“But you are only a teenager.”

‘I have no place to go.  … I follow them to fight …..’

“Did you get killed?”

‘No, I survived.’

“Ok, then what happens to you?”

‘I move to another place’

“Do you get married?”

‘No. I live by myself, in a cabin … in woods.’

“Ok, How did you die?”

‘I become old…. And I died.’